[Mich VHF UHF Society] Fwd: Re: [VHF] What do we use for JT65b in the Cabrillo file?

[Dano]

This contest is not mode specific so it doesn't matter. On my contest
logging program I edit the mode to RTTY (use RY for the cabrillo file) then
add a note to the entry with the specific mode I used, like; JT65, FSK441,
ISCAT, etc. Makes it easier to keep track of those QSO's when I import the
ADIF into my general logging program.


73,

Dan KF6A...

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Roger Cox <rgcox2 at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Interesting discussion, but in the short, it doesn't matter what you
> enter in the file, ARRL doesn't care.
>
> 73 Roger W8IO
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------  Subject: Re: [VHF] What do we use
> for JT65b in the Cabrillo file?  Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 22:07:00 -0600  From:
> Keith Morehouse via VHF <vhf at w6yx.stanford.edu> <vhf at w6yx.stanford.edu>  Reply-To:
> Keith Morehouse <w9rm at calmesapartners.com> <w9rm at calmesapartners.com>  To:
> VHF Reflector <vhf at w6yx.stanford.edu> <vhf at w6yx.stanford.edu>
>
> Yes, RY was originally (and still is) the descriptor for RTTY, before
> the days of widespread use of 'other digital modes' that are now
> common in VHF contesting.  The original spec for the cabrillo format
> used by the ARRL for contest submissions was also developed before the
> widespread use of 'other digital modes'.
>
> I'm not certain, but I believe that even today, the only valid
> cabrillo designations for mode is CW, PH and RY.  Using 'DIGI' would
> probably (I say probably, not certainly) result in a bounced log from
> the contest robot.
>
> I use N1MM for logging - actually, now N1MM+.  With the radio(s) under
> computer control, the default value for mode in the cabrillo output
> file would be PH while running JT65 or FSK441, since, as Marshall
> noted, the radio is in SSB mode.  I donl't think this can be changed
> in the current program version.  If it CAN be changed on the fly, I
> welcome being held by the hand and educated, as I currently go into
> the cabrillo file and manually find and change all the WSJT contacts
> from PH to RY post contest (GASP - changing the log after the contest
> is over - I feel the wrath rising amongst those HF purists who still
> might be slumming around us pathetic VHFers)  If it can not be done,
> perhaps a 'enhancement' to N1MM+ is in order.
>
> So, since its been shown that both RY and PH are acceptable to the
> contest log adjudicators, one can conclude that either can be used.
> It would be helpful to hear from someone in a official capacity - if
> such a person exists that has any interest in what goes on the the VHF
> world (winky-thing)
>
> Jay W9RM
>
> Keith J Morehouse
> Managing Partner
> Calmesa Partners G.P.
> Olathe, CO
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Marshall-K5QE via VHF<vhf at w6yx.stanford.edu> <vhf at w6yx.stanford.edu> wrote:
> > Hello Jay and others....I use the N3FJP VHF contesting log(network
> > version)....it only has PH, CW, and DIGI as modes.
> >
> > I am supposing the RY is an abbreviation for RTTY....maybe not.
> >
> > 73 Marshall K5QE
> >
> > On 6/15/2015 10:04 PM, Keith Morehouse via VHF wrote:
> >
> > Well, I have always listed any WSJT mode contact as RY in cabrillo log
> > format, both for my station and in many large score logs from multi-op
> > stations.  The contest robot never had an issue and evidently, no
> > human checkers did, either.  All WSJT QSO's  have always been good in
> > our logs.
> >
> > So, since Marshall uses PH, I guess the answer would be, 'either PH or RY'
> >
> > Jay W9RM
> >
> > Keith J Morehouse
> > Managing Partner
> > Calmesa Partners G.P.
> > Olathe, CO
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Marshall-K5QE via VHF
> > <vhf at w6yx.stanford.edu> <vhf at w6yx.stanford.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Roger and other VHF contesters.....I have always sent in WSJT type
> > contacts as PH.  Several things led to this:  1)The radios are in SSB mode,
> > 2)we are injecting tones into the radio and we are sending out audio tones,
> > 3)None of the other choices fit at all.
> >
> > I have never had ARRL or CQ say anything at all about this choice. I have
> > been doing this for years.  If someone was going to protest, it seems to me
> > that they would have done so by now.
> >
> > Actually, I don't think that modes means anything in VHF contesting.  You
> > can only work a station once, regardless of mode. Cross mode contacts are
> > perfectly fine.  I worked more than one station that was on CW while we were
> > on SSB this weekend.  When we run in to a small station or a weak station,
> > we tell them to "Try CW!!".  We don't switch to CW unless necessary.....it
> > saves time.
> >
> > Others may do things differently....."Your mileage may
> > vary".....whatever....
> >
> > 73 Marshall K5QE
> >
> >
> > On 6/15/2015 8:05 PM, Roger Cox via VHF wrote:
> >
> > What do we use for JT65b mode in the VHF contest Cabrillo file.
> > Specification V3 lists SSB, CW, RTTY and MIXED, while the QSO templates list
> > CW, PH, FM and RY.  I would guess RY.
> >
> > 73 Roger W8IO
> >
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